Cross & Gavel Podcast

The Cross & Gavel Podcast is designed for Christian attorneys and law students, but our topics range from pop culture to theology, from books to movies. Host Anton Sorkin invites a variety of guests to speak on topics relating broadly to faith and culture, but our focus is on the intersection of faith and work, particularly work in the law.

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Recent Podcasts

Eric Enlow, Dean, Handong International Law School
Myron Steeves, Founder, Church Law Center
Frank Beckwith, Professor, Baylor University
Eddie Colanter, Professor, California State University San Marcos
Mike Schutt, Executive Director, Worldview Academy

A special group of perfect strangers got together one evening during the 2022 CLS National Conference to talk about Aquinas, swingsets, and the authority of God. A few week later their audio was found. Caveat Emptore.

Dr. Andrew Root, Author, Speaker, Professor

Anton Sorkin talks about the dangers of adopting an "always be innovating" model for the church with Andrew Root. 

Elizabeth Miller, CEO, International Organization for Stopping Exploitation of Women (IOSEW)
Brianna Racchini, Executive Director Triad Ladder of Hope

Anton Sorkin talks with two executive directors for their respective organizations about modern day slavery in the form of sex trafficking. Liz runs the International Organization for Stopping Exploitation of Women (IoSEW) and Brianna runs Triad Ladder of Hope (here). For more on this heinous crime, check out the memoir Girls Like Us from Rachel Lloyd.

Jason Thacker, Director of the Research Institute, The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission

Joining this week to talk about the all important work of preparing the church to tackle the technological age is Jason Thacker — the chair of research in technology ethics and director of the research institute at The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC)

Greg Forster, Political Science Professor, Trinity International University

Joining this week to talk about how Christianity lost its cultural influence and can begin rebuilding it anew is political science professor at Trinity International University—Greg Forster. His book, Joy for the World, can be purchased here.

Special Episode: Dr. Jason Lepojärvi, George Fox University

For our first ever Leadership Roundtable, the students and I were joined by Dr. Jason Lepojärvi on the topic of overcoming resentment culture and better loving our neighbors. Jason is the C.S. Lewis Associate Professor of Theology & Literature (Honors Program) at George Fox University.

Benjamin Storey, Visiting Fellow, The American Enterprise Institute, Author, 

Finding contentment is difficult. So, instead, we replace that pursuit with temporal acts of distraction and pleasure. Joining me this week to discuss the search for meaning through the eyes of four French philosophers is AEI Fellow and author of "Why We Are Restless" — Benjamin Storey.

Dr. Winnifred Sullivan, professor of religious studies and co-director, Center for Religion and the Human at Indiana University
Pete Williamson, Staff Member, Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, Chaplain, Harvard University

Anton Sorkin is joined by Dr. Winnifred Sullivan and Pete Williamson to talk about the ministry of presence and the role of chaplaincy on university campuses.

Clarke Forsythe, Senior Counsel, Americans United for Life

Anton Sorkin is joined by Clarke Forsythe to close out our summer of Dobbs in a discussion about the option itself and the looming state of demedicalized abortion.

John Kleining, Author, Lecturer, Australian Lutheran College

With the end of Roe comes a renewed conversation about the meaning of sex and the purpose of our physical bodies. Here to discuss the theology of the body and his new book — Wonderfully Made — is a Lutheran man from a land down under: John Kleining. 


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